• Oscar Pistorius affidavit in full – his account of what happened
    Posted by on Feb 19th, 2013

    Today was the bail court application hearing for Oscar Pistorius and the judge upgraded the charge against Oscar Pistorius to premeditated murder. Pistorius cried heavily when judge Nair ruled that the murder charge against him be treated as a schedule six offence.

    In an affividavit after the ruling, Pistorius made the following statements read out by his lawyer.

    I am an adult male, SA citizen and applicant in this application and seek to be released on bail.

    I make this affadavit of my own free will and have not been influenced. Contents is true and correct.

    I fail to understand how I could be charged with murder, let alone premeditated murder because I had no intention to kill my girlfriend.

    I have been informed I have been acused of murder – I deny the accusation.

     Nothing can be further from the truth that I planned the murder of my girlfriend.

    I have no intention to relocate as I love my country.

    I earn R5.6m a year. I’ve never been convicted of crimes.

    I deny that I committed murder in the strongest point. Even though I don’t have to, I want to deal with these allegations.

    Reeva had bought me a present for Valentine’s Day. We were deeply in love.

    We were deeply in love and couldn’t be happier. I loved her and I know she felt the same way.

    On 13 Feb Reeva would have gone out with her friends, me with mine. She wanted to stay at home.

    I was watching TV. My legs were off. She was doing yoga. At the end of the evening we got into bed.

    I’m accutely aware of people gaining entries to homes to commit crime, I’ve received death threats.

    I sleep with my 9mm under my bed. I woke up to close the sliding door and heard a noise in the bathroom.

    I was scared and didn’t switch on the light. I got my gun and moved towards the bathroom. I screamed at the intruder because I did not have my legs on I felt vulnerable. I fired shots through the bathroom door and told Reeva to call police.

    I walked back to the bed and realised Reeva was not in bed. Its then it dawned on me it could be her in there.

    I kicked the door open. Called paramedics and complex security. I tried to carry her down stairs for help.

    I tried to help her but she died in my arms. I am mortified.

    With the benefit of hindsight I realise that Reeva went to the bathroom when I went to close the balcony door.

    I trust the South African legal system and the facts will show that I did not murder Reeva.

    I believe the forensic evidence will prove what I am saying. I used a cricket bat to break open toilet door.

    I am an international sports star, I will not evade my trial.

    After the shooting I did not flee the scene. I remained until the police arrived.

    I dont know of any witnesses in this matter, and I won’t interfere with any witnesses.

    My continued incarceration will be of “no benefit” to the state. Release would not disturb the public order.

    The above is taken from reporter Barry Bateman who is live-tweeting events while covering the hearing.

    UPDATE: i have included parts in red of the affidavit that Barry Bateman did not mention. The parts in red are taken from News 24 live updates.

    I should also mention that many people are asking how he kicked the door in with no legs. The reporting from Barry Bateman states that he kicked in the door while the News 24 live updates said he mentioned opening the door with the bat.

     UPDATE 2: those were the main points summarising the affidavit.

    The entire full affidavit is below.

    “I, the undersigned, Oscar Leonard Carl Pistorius, do hereby make oath and state:

    I am an adult male and a South African citizen with identity number [identity number redacted].

    I am the Applicant in this application in which I seek relief from this Honourable Court to be released on bail. I respectfully submit, as I will demonstrate herein, that the interests of justice permit my release on bail. In any event, the dictates of fairness and justice in view of the peculiar facts herein warrant that I should not be deprived of my liberty and that I should be released on bail.

    I make this affidavit of my own free will and have not in any way been unduly influenced to depose thereto.

    The facts herein contained, save where expressly indicated to the contrary, are within my personal knowledge and belief, and are both true and correct.

    The purpose of this affidavit is to provide the above Honourable Court with my personal circumstances and to address the allegations levelled against me (in so far as they are known to me), as well as to address the factors to be considered by the above Honourable Court as contained in Sections 60(4) to 60(9) of the Act.

    I have been advised and I understand that I bear the burden to show that the interests of justice permit my release and that I am obliged to initiate this application. I fail to understand how I could be charged with murder, let alone premeditated murder, as I had no intention to kill my girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp (“Reeva”). However, I will put factors before the Honourable Court to show that it is in the interests of justice to permit my release on bail.

    I state that the State will not be able to present any objective facts that I committed a planned or premeditated murder. For this reason I will hereunder deal with the events which occurred that evening. The objective facts will not refute my version as it is the truth.

    I am a professional athlete and reside at [address redacted].

    I was born on 22 November 1986, at Johannesburg. I have resided in the Republic of South Africa (“the RSA”) all my life, and although I frequently travel abroad to participate in international sporting events, I regard South Africa as my permanent place of abode. I have no intention to relocate to any other country as I love my country.

    I own immovable assets in South Africa, which consist of the following:

    The immovable property in which I currently reside, at [address redacted] (“the residential premises”). This property is valued at approximately R5 million and is encumbered by a mortgage bond in the amount of approximately R2 million.

    Two further immovable properties located within Weeping Willow Estates, Pretoria East, which properties have a combined value of approximately R1,6 million. Both properties are bonded to an aggregate value of approximately R1 million.

    A vacant stand in Langebaan, Western Cape, which has a value of approximately R1,7 million. This property is not bonded.

    I own movable assets comprised of household furniture and effects, motor vehicles and jewellery, which are valued in excess of R500 000,00.

    My friends and family reside in the RSA, although I also have friends abroad.

    My professional occupation currently provides me with an income of approximately R5,6 million per annum.

    I have cash investments in excess of R1 million at various banks within the RSA.

    I have never been convicted of any criminal offences either in the RSA or elsewhere. There are no outstanding cases, other than the present, being investigated against me by the South African Police Services (“SAPS”).

    My legal representatives have explained the provisions of Section 60(11) of the Act to me. I respectfully make the following submissions in this regard:

    I have been informed that I am accused of having committed the offence of murder. I deny the aforesaid allegation in the strongest terms.

    I am advised that I do not have to deal with the merits of the case for purposes of the bail application. However, I believe that it is appropriate to deal with the merits in this application, particularly in view of the State’s contention that I planned to murder Reeva. Nothing can be further from the truth and I have no doubt that it is not possible for the State to present objective facts to substantiate such an allegation, as there is no substance in the allegation. I do not know on what different facts the allegation of a premeditated murder could be premised and I respectfully request the State to furnish me with such alleged facts in order to allow me to refute such allegations.

    On the 13th of February 2013 Reeva would have gone out with her friends and I with my friends. Reeva then called me and asked that we rather spend the evening at home. I agreed and we were content to have a quiet dinner together at home. By about 22h00 on 13 February 2013 we were in our bedroom. She was doing her yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier. I know she felt the same way. She had given me a present for Valentine’s Day but asked me only to open it the next day.

    After Reeva finished her yoga exercises she got into bed and we both fell asleep.

    I am acutely aware of violent crime being committed by intruders entering homes with a view to commit crime, including violent crime. I have received death threats before. I have also been a victim of violence and of burglaries before. For that reason I kept my firearm, a 9 mm Parabellum, underneath my bed when I went to bed at night.

    During the early morning hours of 14 February 2013, I woke up, went onto the balcony to bring the fan in and closed the sliding doors, the blinds and the curtains. I heard a noise in the bathroom and realised that someone was in the bathroom.

    I felt a sense of terror rushing over me. There are no burglar bars across the bathroom window and I knew that contractors who worked at my house had left the ladders outside. Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps.

    I believed that someone had entered my house. I was too scared to switch a light on.

    I grabbed my 9mm pistol from underneath my bed. On my way to the bathroom I screamed words to the effect for him/them to get out of my house and for Reeva to phone the police. It was pitch dark in the bedroom and I thought Reeva was in bed.

    I noticed that the bathroom window was open. I realised that the intruder/s was/were in the toilet because the toilet door was closed and I did not see anyone in the bathroom. I heard movement inside the toilet. The toilet is inside the bathroom and has a separate door.

    It filled me with horror and fear of an intruder or intruders being inside the toilet. I thought he or they must have entered through the unprotected window. As I did not have my prosthetic legs on and felt extremely vulnerable, I knew I had to protect Reeva and myself. I believed that when the intruder/s came out of the toilet we would be in grave danger. I felt trapped as my bedroom door was locked and I have limited mobility on my stumps.

    I fired shots at the toilet door and shouted to Reeva to phone the police. She did not respond and I moved backwards out of the bathroom, keeping my eyes on the bathroom entrance. Everything was pitch dark in the bedroom and I was still too scared to switch on a light. Reeva was not responding.

    When I reached the bed, I realised that Reeva was not in bed. That is when it dawned on me that it could have been Reeva who was in the toilet. I returned to the bathroom calling her name. I tried to open the toilet door but it was locked. I rushed back into the bedroom and opened the sliding door exiting onto the balcony and screamed for help.

    I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open. I think I must then have turned on the lights. I went back into the bedroom and grabbed my cricket bat to bash open the toilet door. A panel or panels broke off and I found the key on the floor and unlocked and opened the door. Reeva was slumped over but alive.

    I battled to get her out of the toilet and pulled her into the bathroom. I phoned Johan Stander (“Stander”) who was involved in the administration of the estate and asked him to phone the ambulance. I phoned Netcare and asked for help. I went downstairs to open the front door.

    I returned to the bathroom and picked Reeva up as I had been told not to wait for the paramedics, but to take her to hospital. I carried her downstairs in order to take her to the hospital. On my way down Stander arrived. A doctor who lives in the complex also arrived. Downstairs, I tried to render the assistance to Reeva that I could, but she died in my arms.

    I am absolutely mortified by the events and the devastating loss of my beloved Reeva. With the benefit of hindsight I believe that Reeva went to the toilet when I went out on the balcony to bring the fan in. I cannot bear to think of the suffering I have caused her and her family, knowing how much she was loved. I also know that the events of that tragic night were as I have described them and that in due course I have no doubt the police and expert investigators will bear this out.

    I will stand my trial should it proceed against me. I am a well-known international athlete and there is no possibility that I will even think of not standing my trial should there be one. I trust the South African legal system and that the facts will show that I did not murder Reeva.

    In order to persuade the above Honourable Court that I should be released on bail, I provide the following additional facts and information in terms of Section 60 of the Act.

    I do not know the identity of any witness upon whom the State will rely in order to attempt to prove a case against me. In any event, I have no intention to interfere with any witnesses as I have no cause to do so and I undertake not to do so.

    I maintain good relationships with people and I bear no grudges against anyone.

    As previously stated, I have no previous convictions and I have not been released on bail pending any charges.

    I am not disposed to violence.

    I respectfully submit that the facts set out above support my contention that I do not constitute a flight risk.

    I have two South African passports, the one is full. I need my passport to compete overseas but I am willing to surrender the passports to the investigating officer should it be a condition of bail. I am not in possession of any other travel documents and undertake not to apply for such documentation pending the finalisation of these proceedings.

    After the shooting I did not attempt to flee. Rather, I accepted Stander would contact the police, and I remained at the scene.

    I will be able to raise an appropriate amount to post as bail.

    I have no knowledge of any evidentiary material which may exist with regard to the allegations levelled against me. In any event, I believe that whatever such evidence may be, it is in the possession of the police; it is safely secured and I do not have access thereto. I undertake not to interfere with any further investigations.

    I am not sure which witnesses the State will rely upon in order to attempt to prove its case against me. Nonetheless, I undertake not to communicate with any witness, whoever he or she may be, and any other persons whose names may appear on a list of “State witnesses”, to be provided by the State.

    My continued incarceration can only prejudice me and creates no benefit to the State.

    I respectfully submit that should I be released on bail, my release shall not disturb the public order or undermine the proper functioning of the criminal justice system.

    I will comply with such conditions as the above Honourable Court may wish to impose.

    I accordingly submit that the interests of justice, considerations of prejudice and the balancing of respective interests favour my release on bail.”

    That’s actually a lot more logical than initial reports, but still plenty of questions.

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    NJay says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    How did he close the sliding door without his legs on.. so, did he not have them on when he shot her but then managed to “walk back to the bed” and carry her downstairs (presumably with them on?) Confused!

    Nicole says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Why would Reeva lock the toilet door at night when whe was alone and Oscar was asleep?

    Unconvinced says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    He kicked the door down with no legs??? How is this possible?

    Are You Serious?? says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Surely the logical thing would be to read the article properly before you comment?

    “Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps.”
    “I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open.”

    I am not condoning anything that happened or jumping to any conclusions about what may or may not have happened – I do, however, have the courtesy to read through all the evidence before opening my mouth

    Jared says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Very confused about the whereabouts of his legs and the walking back to bed, kicking the door open? These seem very poor choice words

    Chris says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Well if this is true ,3 very glaring things have come to light. 1. Is that Oscar Pristorious should never have been allowed anywhere near a gun and that SA should have stricter regulations on gun ownership. 2. That his secure estate must actually be one of the most dangerous places in Pretoria and Oscar the adrenaline Junky with no fear, actually lived in a constant state of fear and paranoia. 3. That Oscar must be one of the dumbest people on earth. If this is true then change the charge from premeditated murder to murder by shear and utter stupidity. However in my humble opinion this is the biggest load of bullshit since OJ.

    pretoria says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    I think you all should stop reading this shit and watch eNCA and listen to what he really said, it clearly said he went to get his legs,and chris you have not been a victim of any crime in South Africa accidents do happen!! And if you had the life style oscar had you would also want to be able to protect yourself!! Its sad that you bad mouth him like this!! I’m sure when he was doing good you were standing “bree bors” so till you hear the whole story shut up

    Chris says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Pretoria, you are 100% right I have not been a victim of violent crime in SA. I also do not live in a security estate. I also do not own a gun because I know that gun owners have an increased risk of being in a gun related incident. Accidental deaths occur close to 3 times more often than justifiable homicide. I do not live in a constant state of fear and I hate to tell you neither did Oscar. No adrenaline junky as Oscar liked to describe himself would be living in that state of paranoia. As far as his statement goes it sounds totally contrived by him and his attorneys and to me is a load of Bullshit. I am sure the truth about Oscar and his personality will come out slowly much as it did for OJ. As far as him doing good, I am not sure what you are referring to, his running? Well good for him. I will stand next to him any day and discuss who he is as a person and who I am and then we can decide who is a better person. Being a gifted athlete who has overcome adversity and who is the Media’s golden child does not make him a good person in my eyes. It means he has a good PR person, just like: Lance, Tiger, OJ, Michael Jordan, Ray Lewis etc….. The sooner the Media stops portraying athletes as role models for anything other than sport the better. So you can hero worship Oscar all you want and you can tell me to shut up but it all it does is show me that you are a coward much as I think Oscar was outside of his disability.

    Lauren says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Chris, I’m not condoning people running around shooting – but after reading Oscars full statement, it makes a lot more sense. Just to give you some context- I live in a secure estate in an upmarket suburb; we have access controlled booms with 24hr guards, 24hr security patrol cars driving around in the complex, a palisade fence that surrounds our property and an electric fence that goes right down to the ground! And STILL someone managed to break in! They climbed THROUGH the electric fence, popped one of the palisade beams off and got inside! And on a different occasion, I’ve woken up to my husband tiptoe’ing around in the early hours of the morning with his gun, ready to shoot, because of noises he’s heard outside- so I assure you, these things do happen. And accidents can happen too… I also understand Oscars instinct to act on impulse and instinct- when your adrenaline is pumping and you’re THAT terrified, you act first and think later- trust me, I’ve experienced it firsthand while being hi-jacked.. So again, although I’m NOT condoning people running around, trigger happy- I am saying that ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN.
    What I’m curious about though- is why didn’t Reeva shout back when Oscar was screaming at the “intruder”?? Maybe she had passed out for some reason, or she got such a fright and it all happened too quickly?!
    But then again, maybe he IS guilty. Maybe it was an argument gone horribly, horribly wrong… Whatever the true story is though, we’ll find out soon enough.

    Either way, it’s a tragedy for both families and I feel desperately sorry for everyone involved.

    Lauren says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    I meant to add, that these ‘Secure housing Estates’ often give a person a false sense of security, but the truth is, that no matter where you live, you’ve got to remain cautious at all times! With Oscar being (1) disabled- makes him a hundred times more vulnerable and on guard than a normal person, and (2) an international celebrity- death threats, as he’s mentioned, are a reality…

    Anyway, as I said- the truth will come out soon enough. Until then, rather keep the nasty comments at bay…

    Chris says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Sorry Lauren I can’t agree with you at all with regards to reacting with regards to adrenaline. That is BS. As is his statement. Leading me to the stupidity of the whole thing. If at any point Oscar wasn’t stupid he would realise that a burglar would not be locking himself in the bathroom. Much less a violent burglar who would be causing a threat to someone in his home. If you are going to own a gun.you damn well better be able to use it properly. IE: DETERMINING WHAT THE THREAT IS AND MAKING THE CORRECT DECISIONS ABOUT IT, I hope for your and your children’s sake your husband is able to make that determination. So again sorry, and about me you are dead wrong I have had guns pulled on me several times and I have been broken into and some how I am able to maintain my wits to know what I am doing. If you want to be naive because you also live in fear go ahead. But last time I checked in the heat of the moment or I was overtaken by adrenaline were not a defense for murder. Like I said if his version is true then 1. he should never have been allowed to own a gun. 2. He is an absolute idiot. 3. That his secure estate had had a series of break ins where robbers were mysteriously locking themselves in bathrooms. Like I said Its Bullshit with a capital B.

    shaz says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    So question to those who life in fully secure estates. If crime still occurs and y’all have to keep guns them why leave your balcony door open and fan outside while you sleep. It sounds pretty crime free to me.

    Jimmy - Baba Ngaa says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Chris, I am going to sue you. You took words straight out of my mind, word for word. I am going to punish you by sentencing Oscar to multiple life sentences. He belongs in hell. My gut feeling is that Oscar pummelled Reeva into a heap of pulp with a cricket bat. Then shot her after she was already dead, or almost, to create an intrusion scene. Then his lawyers wrote the script.
    Talking about the cricket bat, did Oscar play cricket? Here is a violent person through and through. I wouldnt be surprised if he had hunting knives, grenades and booby traps all around his already secure mansion. From the evidence given so far,I believe Oscar fantasised so much about catching an intruder in his home, and how he would kill the intruder. Only this time, he killed his girl friend, and is now frantically trying to place his girlfriend’s killing into his fantasies.

    Jimmy - Baba Ngaa says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    No, you shut up!!! How can you honestly condon the killing of an innocent person’s life, just because Oscar is a big celebrity. I am following this case closely, and I hope they give him multiple life sentences behind very thick bars. This would set a very bad precedence if his and your kind are allowed to go scot-free. It would seem we have a different set of rules for celebrities than we have for the rest of us. Imagine how the case would have been handled if the crime had been commited by a nobody such as you….I am sure a hang man’s snoose would be around your neck.

    And yes, you are right, we praised and ululated for him when he did the nation proud. And because of that, he believed he was above the law. So fuck him and his like.

    Jagter says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    What about the cricket bat and the crushed skull?

    Apparently her skull was pre-crushed and the bat wasnt used in this case.

    PRETORIA, SOUTH AFRICA—Facing allegations that he killed girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp during a dispute at his Pretoria mansion last week, track star Oscar Pistorius swore before a judge Monday that a bloodied cricket bat found on his property was in fact used in a completely different murder. “Honest to God, I never used that bat on Reeva—you have to believe me,” the double amputee said of the blood-soaked wooden paddle, claiming he had only ever used it in the 2011 slaying of a Johannesburg prostitute and “a handful” of cricket matches. “Seriously, I haven’t even seen that thing since I killed a hooker with it. To be honest, I forgot I still had it lying around.” According to sources, Pistorius went on to claim that Steenkamp’s skull was already caved in before he shot her four times.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/oscar-pistorius-swears-bloody-cricket-bat-from-dif,31341/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default

    Jared says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    eNCA has covered nothing that explains the how he got around? I understand it was said that he used the cricket bat to break the bathroom door down. I’m guessing he has a wheel chair or something that he used to close the balcony door etc but this has not been clearly explained.

    We should wait for the full facts to emerge but you have to admit “Pretoria Says” for a man going to be fighting to avoid life imprisonment this is a pretty poor worded statement?

    Are You Serious?? says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Your comment is awaiting approval from an administrator…

    Surely the logical thing would be to read the article properly before you comment?

    “Although I did not have my prosthetic legs on I have mobility on my stumps.”
    “I put on my prosthetic legs, ran back to the bathroom and tried to kick the toilet door open.”

    I am not condoning anything that happened or jumping to any conclusions about what may or may not have happened – I do, however, have the courtesy to read through all the evidence before opening my mouth

    Piet says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    “I screamed at the intruder because I did not have my legs on I felt vulnerable. I fired shots through the bathroom door and told Reeva to call police.” She obviously used drugs. Only explanation why she closed the bathroom and didn’t hear anything. She was passed out.

    David says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Here’s a link apparently to the full affidavit handed to court.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/in-full-oscar-pistoriuss-defence-affidavit-8501265.html

    Beedee says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Sounds plausible. The only question mark for me is why did she lock the toilet door in the first place? Was she expecting someone to barge in? Maybe force of habit, but strange to do so at 4 in the morning.
    Also, when he screamed at the intruder, surely she would have replied? Why did she remain silent waiting to be shot? Someone ain’t telling the whole story.

    Itai says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    But why didn’t he at least wake up his girlfriend to advise her of the purported intruders before he even went out of the bedroom with a gun only to shout when he was out of the bedroom?

    Ovidy says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Firstly wat this man did is wrong, why would Reeva lock herself up in a toilet when she ultimately knew there was no one else in the house, wen Pistorus come back from closing the sliding door he reached a gun underneath the bed where Reeva was sleeping and could not see someone was not in bed, or probably they were using two seperate bedrooms though i tend to disagree coz after yoga excerses they all fell asleep. why didn’t he woke up reeva when he had come for the gun that there are intruders, touch him he will tell the truth. How abt the guards take them and interogate them

    Jimmy - Baba Ngaa says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    I totally agree with your methods mate. Zimbabwean investigators are known to tickle baboons till they admit to being rabbits. Oscar needs a little tickling, and he will tell us the whole story. Simply put, I think Oscar should tell us where he buys his “grade of drugs”. We might pardon him and arrest the supplier – to avoid future happenings of this nature.

    Sullivan says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    The last time i checked, all accused persons are innocent until proven guilty. we can all stress & ponder but the case is before the courts & hopefully in due course the truth of what really happened on that fateful night will be known & hey Chris you really are are a God, i mean thugs have pulled out guns at you & at all the times you managed to remain calm & told them to play with their toys elsewhere, WOW man!!

    Chris says:
    February 02, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    Sullivan hey good point when you say innocent what exactly are you referring to? Innocent of what exactly killing a defenseless woman? So if I were you I wouldn’t throw around the word innocent here unless you can’t read and somehow missed the part where Oscar admitted to shooting her. Essentially you and Oscar feel he is innocent of killing a woman and his only guilt is for shooting a door. As far as God let’s just leave God out of things that’s a whole other debate. As far as me being God, you really think remaining calm has something to do with being a God? Did I say I wasn’t afraid? Did I say I didn’t hand over what was being asked for? Did I say I wasn’t angry? Did I ask them nicely to play with their toys elsewhere? No. So why don’t you take your hyperbole and apply it to something useful, like religion.

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